Saturday, November 9, 2019

N. 20 - Due Nov. 11 -- Sara explains the reasons behind her essay on sin in Dante, Pasolini and Boccaccio

PART 1

Scroll down to n. 16.
Read Sara's essay on sexuality and sin in the three authors.

READ the comments that have been posted, in particular Julia's comment: she reveals the sad truth that education discourages individual thinking and risk taking; indeed it encourages students to play it safe and wait to be told what to do.

At this point, write your COMMENT to the posting.
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PART 2
 
AFTER you left you comment for n. 16, read Sara's self reflections below and leave another COMMENT

"Hello everyone,
I wrote this essay/answer for the October 30 assignment. I was waiting for more comments before I expose myself. :D
This particular part was not the whole answer I wrote, this was a side note/extra thinking to the assignment itself. The only reason I wrote about the three authors is to understand what actually was going on in the 1300's. It was also because our theme in the class changed drastically from Inferno's punishments to taking sins 'normally' and I kind of wanted to understand that change.
I did the research on the work of both authors, Boccaccio and Dante and then just piled up my thoughts.
On an honest note, I didn't write this as a challenge or task to myself; I was just curious to understand the change in the theme of the class as well as the difference of thinking among the great philosophers of the 1300's. "
 
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13 comments:

  1. I think to understand the work it would take in depth research not only on the authors and their work but also on the time period. I wonder which one of the ideas was more common amongst the people in the society. But I think the similarity in both is that they showed popes and nuns as sinners or people that indulged in their desires despite preaching against it to others.

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    1. I agree that one point where both works overlapped each other was the way popes and nuns were described.

      It is interesting to think about how the people would have taken these two different approaches to 'sins' at that time. Did they support one author and rebelled against the other?
      Also, since Inferno was written before Boccaccio's novel; what made Boccaccio write something completely different than that? Inferno was already a famous work of early 1300 but Boccaccio still managed to write the novel in 1375, a work which described totally different perspective of sins. Was his approach to sins socially acceptable?


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  2. PART 1
    I do agree with Sara's views on the authors' works. Even though they were written roughly at the same time period, they had completely different views on sins and religion. It also shows how not everyone was really religious even though it was seen as a serious faith. I also agree with Julia's view. We tend to just write whatever the professors want from us and don't think outside the box. Most of the time, students are afraid to express their views outside of what's asked.
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    I think it would take more information to completely understand what both authors were thinking and why they pinned the religion and the sins in a particular way. Maybe if there were any journal entries or explanations, it would be easier to understand.

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  3. So Sara if this was just a side note... what peeked your interest so much to look so deep into the ideologies each author had on sexuality. Great work by the way, i wouldn't have thought to take it this far without being prompted. And i dont know what it is but you've now got me thinking about it as well.

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    1. It was a 'side note' to the question actually asked in October 30 assignment. It triggered me while writing the answer so I just piled up my thoughts in another paragraph and wrote them down.
      The thing that peeked my interest was 1) Why would a writer write something completely different than one of the famous works? Was it even intentional or he just wrote it.
      2) Was that socially acceptable? The way sins were mentioned, did it triggered the public of that time?
      3) What was public's reaction to both of these works?

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  4. 1) I agree with Sara in the sense that the three are comparable but with a careful eye. I don't think I would have bee able to concoct the same. However, the main distinctions with the sins and their perception by the sinners in the afterlife was essential to discuss and it's cool that Sara covered it because, whatever lesson that the authors were trying to convey was definitely going to appear through the sinners.
    2) I think the time is vital too because context is the backbone to these stories and their allegorical interpretations were adjusted to the society they stemmed from which makes these accounts so much more interesting because they still hit readers hard to this day and era.

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  5. 1)I agree with Hector, I don't believe I would be able to come up with the arguments Sara presented or see them the way she did,however I do agree with her. Again it would take an in depth research on the three.

    2) I think it would take more information to conclude this argument because it is a little vague. More emotional responses such as letters would help to bring light to it.

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  6. 1) I thought it was an interesting thing to point out by Sara. She pointed out that both of them are of the same time but their views on religion were completely different. This came as shocking to me as I assumed everyone at the time were god fearing and gods word was law. I was clearly wrong as there are those who not only defy this law but mock and make fun of it as well.
    2) It'll take much more to really understand completely what the two authors at the time were thinking, but I believe it might be safe to say that one was god fearing and the other was just enjoying the gift of life and the time we have on earth.

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  7. 1. I agree with the point's Sara makes and I find it interesting that it was indirectly opposing each other. I can relate to Julia's comment because when we were learning about Dante's Inferno, I was thinking "Wow, how brutal it must be to be religious," but on the other hand we had people in Decameron's stories who were sinning with no fear. So I thought, "maybe it didn't really matter?" but Sara since Sara pointed out that they happened in the same time periods, I believe it's just a matter of preference. Some people may live happily without ever sinning, meanwhile others will sin and still live happily.

    2. Since Inferno's works were already so famous, I believe Boccaccio's works were probably not as socially acceptable at the time. However, people might have been able to privately resonate with those sins because they had more humane and relatable experiences.

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  8. I agree with Sara and how the three authors are comparable and overlap with their work. Its interesting how Sara pointed out that even though the authors have many similarities their view on religion is very different. Because both authors were famous in the same period the subject matters overlapped probably just because of that. Its the same today many authors or film makers talk about similar subject because they are popular.

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  9. 1.) I agree with Sara's point that the three authors' works were writing about the same subject yet their opinions and views directly opposed each others. I also agree with Julia's comment that we tend to not take the extra step on doing further research.
    2.) I agree that it would take a lot more research to understand the changes that was going on in the 1300s. One point that was stated in the Decameron, the plague that was happening might be one of the main reason for the change in the religious view, as they became closer to death than ever and yet the Church still remain corrupted.

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  10. I do agree that it is interesting how two authors of the same time had different views on sin but I do think that it wasn't impossible. Though it Dante's Inferno, he did seem to be God fearing, he did also place nonbelievers/ deniers of God in the Inferno. Not saying this was Boccaccio but I could definitely see Dante thinking the same of him.

    I do agree that many of us do not delve into our works and take initiative because like to get information handed o us. I am sometimes a victim of this. I think it was nice of you Sara to be so intrigued by the disparities in both/ all three author's writing enough to research more about them. I usually only research things to help me answer questions more than interests.

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